My trip to the Industrial Court was both eye-opening and eye-closing.
Mah-mahkamah! Can't read my, can't read my, you can't read my lawyer's face.
The IC is situated literally round the corner of Merdeka Square in one of these colonial-style buildings. I skipped across the road to snap this picture, dodging some swerving cars and motorbikes. Dunno why la, that day, the road-users seemed in a hurry around this area of the road wtf. Lawyers late for a trial maybe.
These buildings actually look good, y'know, IMO.
Reminds me of the buildings in a video game. Like Assassin's Creed! With the trees and all.
That's Dr Vanitha in the middle. I call her D-Va. Lol!
The interior... Bleargh. The blue carpet clashes horribly with the wood, doesn't it. @_@
The IC has around 20+ courtrooms and each of them has a chairman. So D-Va's contact was one of them called Tuan Eddy and he was so kind to allow us into one of the empty courtrooms for a lil pic-snapping / role-playing session.
Inside of the courtroom. Again, bleargh. Si beh ugly, especially the wooden booths. The colour is hideous, awful yellow ochre, exactly the same shade as my wooden desk back during primary school.
OK! Guy in specs is where the company lawyer should be sitting, always on the right of the room whereas claimant's lawyer, always on the left. Witnesses are behind in blue chairs.
Aforementioned IC chairman, the Yang Arif (venerable??) Tuan Eddy. He gave us a quick intro about the courts and told us about some of the ongoing trials. Tuan Eddy is flanked by the panel pekerja and panel majikan who are usually absent in court unless a SOCSO claim is involved.
Girl power! The Powerpuff Girls, with... co-chairwomen. XD Meet Bubbles, Blossom, Butter and.. Cup.
Which........ Concludes the more entertaining part of our visit.
After that we snuck into actual court proceedings, and they were insanely boring. I think the parties on trial have got some interesting stories and issues and what not. Like the Giant Shah Alam case, manager fired for being unable to locate tenants to rent their space, etc etc.
The lawyers were the ones who killed us with boredom.
The first courtroom i visited was a most peculiar one. It was conducted in rojak: Mandarin, BM and English.
The company lawyer spoke in a stuttering broken BM. His witness chose to respond in Mandarin. The court interpreter translated into BM. And the claimant's lawyers, very brilliant and articulate chaps, spoke in English. And the court chairman lalanged between BM and English.
Fwalao eh. @_@
Oh. And the company lawyer sucked. Real bad. Didn't think he knew what he was doing la coz it looked as if the opposing team had him beat up real bad. He seemed to be blurring and couldn't answer the chairman's questions.
Second courtroom was the Giant case and this was an unmitigated disaster. I didn't really get to hear much except the company's lawyer beating round and round and round a giant bush. And that feller had a strange habit. Whenever he asked a question, esp. when he's thinking hard, he'll end up pausing for like 3-5 secs, mid sentence.
"Did you, Mr X [pause 1... 2... 3... 4...] think of utilities [pause 1... 2... 3...] and water supply [pause somemore, and yes, i counted]......."
WtF!
His witness was a little stunned ok wtf.
See the case is.
Manager Y's role was to find tenants/concessionaires for one of these space-to-rents to conduct some sort of How to Cook program. So he failed to find tenants and was subsequently dismissed. So he's now suing for unfair dismissal.
The company's lawyer tried to build the case by asking questions like
"Do you have any proof that Y wasn't doing his work?"
"What was Y's role"
"Email proof shows that Y has contacted so and so and was that what he should have done."
So if you're from the company trying to justify that Y's dismissal was due to non-performance, u have to establish that Y sucked, and he had the role to find so and so and so, and that he failed to do so etc.
But the witness from the company just said "I don't know" after long pauses.
-_-"
Mah-mahkamah! Can't read my, can't read my, you can't read my lawyer's face.
The IC is situated literally round the corner of Merdeka Square in one of these colonial-style buildings. I skipped across the road to snap this picture, dodging some swerving cars and motorbikes. Dunno why la, that day, the road-users seemed in a hurry around this area of the road wtf. Lawyers late for a trial maybe.
These buildings actually look good, y'know, IMO.
Reminds me of the buildings in a video game. Like Assassin's Creed! With the trees and all.
That's Dr Vanitha in the middle. I call her D-Va. Lol!
The interior... Bleargh. The blue carpet clashes horribly with the wood, doesn't it. @_@The IC has around 20+ courtrooms and each of them has a chairman. So D-Va's contact was one of them called Tuan Eddy and he was so kind to allow us into one of the empty courtrooms for a lil pic-snapping / role-playing session.
Inside of the courtroom. Again, bleargh. Si beh ugly, especially the wooden booths. The colour is hideous, awful yellow ochre, exactly the same shade as my wooden desk back during primary school.
OK! Guy in specs is where the company lawyer should be sitting, always on the right of the room whereas claimant's lawyer, always on the left. Witnesses are behind in blue chairs.
Aforementioned IC chairman, the Yang Arif (venerable??) Tuan Eddy. He gave us a quick intro about the courts and told us about some of the ongoing trials. Tuan Eddy is flanked by the panel pekerja and panel majikan who are usually absent in court unless a SOCSO claim is involved.
Girl power! The Powerpuff Girls, with... co-chairwomen. XD Meet Bubbles, Blossom, Butter and.. Cup.Which........ Concludes the more entertaining part of our visit.
After that we snuck into actual court proceedings, and they were insanely boring. I think the parties on trial have got some interesting stories and issues and what not. Like the Giant Shah Alam case, manager fired for being unable to locate tenants to rent their space, etc etc.
The lawyers were the ones who killed us with boredom.
The first courtroom i visited was a most peculiar one. It was conducted in rojak: Mandarin, BM and English.
The company lawyer spoke in a stuttering broken BM. His witness chose to respond in Mandarin. The court interpreter translated into BM. And the claimant's lawyers, very brilliant and articulate chaps, spoke in English. And the court chairman lalanged between BM and English.
Fwalao eh. @_@
Oh. And the company lawyer sucked. Real bad. Didn't think he knew what he was doing la coz it looked as if the opposing team had him beat up real bad. He seemed to be blurring and couldn't answer the chairman's questions.
Second courtroom was the Giant case and this was an unmitigated disaster. I didn't really get to hear much except the company's lawyer beating round and round and round a giant bush. And that feller had a strange habit. Whenever he asked a question, esp. when he's thinking hard, he'll end up pausing for like 3-5 secs, mid sentence.
"Did you, Mr X [pause 1... 2... 3... 4...] think of utilities [pause 1... 2... 3...] and water supply [pause somemore, and yes, i counted]......."
WtF!
His witness was a little stunned ok wtf.
See the case is.
Manager Y's role was to find tenants/concessionaires for one of these space-to-rents to conduct some sort of How to Cook program. So he failed to find tenants and was subsequently dismissed. So he's now suing for unfair dismissal.
The company's lawyer tried to build the case by asking questions like
"Do you have any proof that Y wasn't doing his work?"
"What was Y's role"
"Email proof shows that Y has contacted so and so and was that what he should have done."
So if you're from the company trying to justify that Y's dismissal was due to non-performance, u have to establish that Y sucked, and he had the role to find so and so and so, and that he failed to do so etc.
But the witness from the company just said "I don't know" after long pauses.
-_-"
Yeesh. I was in the for approx. 30 mins and i only heard less than 10 questions...
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I think it is just best to stay away from any industrial court trials. It's simply not worth the stress and time involved. My classmates who visited the court on Monday, they got a case that had been going (dragging) on for 10 years. Think of all the legal fees involved. 10 years...
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